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BillBSET God Member Offline Ignorance can be fixed, Stupid is Forever Posts: 698 Location: Monkey Island Joined: Sep 19^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #15 - Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 8:47am	Print Post
	I seem to be repeating my self.. you and I were just talking about this in another thread... and bombing all of those civillians.. man... I hope someone can figure this out.. I hate to wait for sp2.... I doesn't log you out if your IP is different... the problem is for those folks who are just now setting up a 1.4 forum... they won't understand or realize about this problem... for me it is just academic...

	After you eliminate all of the possibilities, whatever is left, no matter how seemingly impossible, must be the truth.
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naitram New Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1.2! Posts: 14 Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2004	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #16 - Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	JD_Steele wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 1:57am: Is there any solution for the AOL problem? Alot of my forum members are complaining about not being able to get further than 1 click before they are auto-logged out. I think the feature is nice, but it takes out ALOT of innocent bystanders as well. Kinda like dropping the nuclear bomb on a small city to kill the 50 or so "bad guys". Any suggestions? Maybe you could have something where you add user names to a list and if they are on the list, they can browse like before. I don't know. JD_Steele i have disabled the function by making everyone use a static value. i know this defeates the purpose of the SID in the first place but it was much eaiser than trying to remove the mod. changes: Code AdminEdit.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session($user_ip,$masterseed); Load.pl: if (&encode_session($user_ip,$slaveseed) ne $decryptsession && $cookiesession ne ""){$validsession = 0;} LogInOut.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session($user_ip,$masterseed); Subs.pl: $formsession = &encode_session($user_ip,$masterseed); to: Code AdminEdit.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session('12345',$masterseed); Load.pl: if (&encode_session('12345',$slaveseed) ne $decryptsession && $cookiesession ne ""){$validsession = 0;} LogInOut.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session('12345',$masterseed); Subs.pl: $formsession = &encode_session('12345',$masterseed);


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Duncan New Member Offline Posts: 33 Joined: Jul 3^rd, 2003 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #17 - Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	The problem with AOL is there only appear to pass the proxy IP and not the client IP as well - most other ISPs which use transparent proxies pass both (although I notice that YaBB only logs the proxy IP against posts even for those ISPs which do pass both)... Quote: over at YaBBForums.. someone recommended only checking the first part of the IP ie.. 100.100.100.xx Whether that would work would depend on how AOL handle the load balancing on their proxies. I am aware of at least 5 address ranges for AOL proxies (starting 64.12.xx.xx, 198.81.xx.xx, 205.188.xx.xx, 209.240.xx.xx and 152.163.xx.xx). If each address ranges serves only one part of the country/world covered by AOL then it shouldn't be a problem - but if individual users jump across the different proxy address ranges on successive clicks, then only checking the first couple of numbers wouldn't work.


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Dam Yankee God Member Offline Posts: 1538 Location: Maryville Joined: Jun 13^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #18 - Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 7:03pm	Print Post
	I have one member with AOL that has jumped proxy ranges in a single session. These are all from the same member, same visit: 172.201.xx.xx 172.145.xx.xx 172.152.xx.xx


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Duncan New Member Offline Posts: 33 Joined: Jul 3^rd, 2003 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #19 - Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 9:54pm	Print Post
	According to the IP logs on the Member list, I have AOL members whi have accessed my site through more than one completely different proxy range (eg, 65.255.xx.xx, 217.137.xx.xx, and 195.93.xx.xx) I don't know whether those were in the same session but it certainly shows that a single AOL user can more around completely different proxy ranges and so it is possible that matching only the first number would still result in AOL users being logged out.


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Kong God Member Offline Is it just me or is my back hairy??? Posts: 858 Joined: Aug 2^nd, 2002 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #20 - Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 11:00pm	Print Post
	I guess it depends on how many different systems they have to jump through to access whatever it is they are trying to access.


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BillBSET God Member Offline Ignorance can be fixed, Stupid is Forever Posts: 698 Location: Monkey Island Joined: Sep 19^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #21 - Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 11:45pm	Print Post
	well., that takes care of that... 172.201.xx.xx 172.145.xx.xx 172.152.xx.xx man,, aol.. how did they buy time/warner anyway... internet scam??

	After you eliminate all of the possibilities, whatever is left, no matter how seemingly impossible, must be the truth.
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Dam Yankee God Member Offline Posts: 1538 Location: Maryville Joined: Jun 13^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #22 - Dec 3^rd, 2004 at 2:58am	Print Post
	Two words... AOL sucks.


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IMOG New Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1.2! Posts: 8 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2004	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #23 - Dec 11^th, 2004 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	I am an AOL user (Thanks mom and dad ) when I am at home (I compute from many places, occasionally from home - I do a lot of traveling), and I am not clear on where this issue stands currently. If there is any way I could be of service, let me know. I have had the good fortune of enjoying some of the generosity of this forum and those who support YaBB, so if I could give a little back, this might be a good oppurtunity. I will try to check back every so often, but you might want to try to contact me at spamisyummy@gmail.com - this is my public email address and I check this weekly.


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Boardmodder420 New Member Offline I love YaBb Posts: 20 Joined: Dec 16^th, 2004	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #24 - Dec 16^th, 2004 at 11:26pm	Print Post
	naitram wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2004 at 3:11pm: i have disabled the function by making everyone use a static value. i know this defeates the purpose of the SID in the first place but it was much eaiser than trying to remove the mod. changes: Code AdminEdit.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session($user_ip,$masterseed); Load.pl: if (&encode_session($user_ip,$slaveseed) ne $decryptsession && $cookiesession ne ""){$validsession = 0;} LogInOut.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session($user_ip,$masterseed); Subs.pl: $formsession = &encode_session($user_ip,$masterseed); to: Code AdminEdit.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session('12345',$masterseed); Load.pl: if (&encode_session('12345',$slaveseed) ne $decryptsession && $cookiesession ne ""){$validsession = 0;} LogInOut.pl: $cryptsession = &encode_session('12345',$masterseed); Subs.pl: $formsession = &encode_session('12345',$masterseed); ok so wait? is this a line i must edit in my source files? i do not understand how to apply this to my forum? the new security thing has compleatly messed things up for alot of my members is there any way around it? or to turn it off?


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naitram New Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1.2! Posts: 14 Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2004	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #25 - Dec 17^th, 2004 at 3:57pm	Print Post
	you need to edit each of the four files listed AdminEdit.pl Load.pl LogInOut.pl Subs.pl find the lines that i listed and change $user_ip to '12345' or some other static value but it must be the same in all four files


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justonemore New Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1 Joined: Oct 30^th, 2002	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #26 - Dec 19^th, 2004 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	I'm with Drews. I see what should get changed. I just don't know WHAT file the changes need to be made in. TIA


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ViperScope New Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1.2! Posts: 22 Location: Saint John Joined: Jul 31^st, 2004 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #27 - Feb 10^th, 2005 at 3:13am	Print Post
	couldn't u just add Code $user_ip = "12345"; above it in those pages or something like Code if ($user_ip eq "") {$user_ip = "12345";}

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Spikecity God Member Offline Beer anyone ? Posts: 2630 Location: New York Joined: Apr 16^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #28 - Feb 10^th, 2005 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	ViperScope wrote on Feb 10^th, 2005 at 3:13am: couldn't u just add Code $user_ip = "12345"; above it in those pages or something like Code if ($user_ip eq "") {$user_ip = "12345";} Won't work as $user_ip as defined always in Subs.pl, one of the first loaded scripts and setting $user_ip to a static value means every user has the same IP address on your board, making IP blocking useless. Above all $user_ip is a core system variable that should not be tampered with as it will compromise everything secure on your board. So a very dangerous suggestion that should not be done in this way. Feeding the session id with a static value instead of the IP is a different thing (this is what the original code change suggested does).

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ViperScope New Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1.2! Posts: 22 Location: Saint John Joined: Jul 31^st, 2004 Gender:	Re: A call for AOL users Reply #29 - Feb 20^th, 2005 at 10:49am	Print Post
	i was thinking why not add an option in the members profiles to not use that part of the forum so say if this user username ignore ip check or something alone that line..

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